They will kill today. They killed yesterday. And they will kill tomorrow.”
-Alison Anderson, Former Environment Minister, the Northern Territory, Australia, on the rise of crocodile attacks
5. An Occurrence at Sandy Creek
At 10 p.m. on October 12, 2002, Isabel and Valarie von Jordan left the Sari Club in Bali one hour before a bomb destroyed the bar and killed 202 people and injured 209 in a neighborhood terrorist attack.
The sisters, students from Heidelberg, Germany, wanted to forget the horror of the tragedy so they decided to spend the rest of their vacation somewhere safer – the Australian Outback.
At 7 a.m. on Sunday, October 20, the pair embarked on a four-day tour of Kakadu National Park, a vast timeless wilderness known for its stunning beauty and diverse wildlife.
Isabel, 23, and Valarie, 21, were part of a group of nine tourists led by Glenn Robless, a 46-year-old guide who worked for Gondwana Adventure Tours.
On Tuesday night, the campers were sitting around telling stories and sharing some laughs. Around 10:30 p.m., they decided to freshen up and go for a swim. Robless said he knew just the place about a half-mile away.
When the group arrived at Sandy Creek beach, they thought it was a perfect spot. The sand was soft and cool. The 10-foot high banks that framed the cove were home to a mini-forest of trees and tropical plants. And the full moon’s reflection gleamed over the inviting, tranquil water.
But a few of the tourists were concerned – several crocodile warning signs were posted.
Robless quickly assured everyone the waters were safe and that only harmless freshwater crocs might be present, not the fearsome man-eating salties.
He also added Sandy Creek was a famous place where Aboriginal people had been swimming for years. In addition, Robless checked the waters by shining a torch around the immediate area, looking for an “eye shine” – a reflection of red croc eyes above the surface. He saw none.
Satisfied, several of the campers entered the water around 11 p.m., including Isabel and Valarie.
James Rothwell, 24, a British tourist in the group remembers the horror that followed.
“We were about 10 yards out from the shore, all within sight and arm’s length of each other,” Rothwell said later in an official statement. “I felt a bang on my leg and seconds later heard a girl scream. And the girl went under the water.
“We got to the shore and shone torches on the water,” Rothwell continued. “We saw with the torches two red eyes going away from where the girl had just gone under. And we saw the outline of a crocodile swimming along the surface of the water.”
By 6:30 a.m., four park rangers found Isabel von Jordan’s mutilated body and captured the 15-foot, 1,100-pound saltwater crocodile that killed her. The sight of Isabel’s limp body in the reptile’s jaws still haunts them.
“It was sitting in the water like a dog with a bone,” said Kakadu National Park Ranger Garry Lindner during an interview with the London Independent. “Time stood still for me. I watched it swim along with the girl in its mouth. It wouldn’t let go.”
Tour guide Robless received a three-year suspended sentence after pleading guilty to making a dangerous omission that caused Isabel von Jordan’s death.
The rangers said they saw eight large saltwater crocs in Sandy Creek while they were searching for Isabel’s body.
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German college students Valarie von Jordan, 21, (left) and sister Isabel von Jordan, 23, arrive at Darwin Airport in Australia Sunday, October 20, 2002. Two days later Isabel was attacked and killed by a 15-foot saltwater crocodile while swimming in Kakadu National Park’s Sandy Creek. (Photo – Newspix)
The dead 15-foot 1,100 pound salt-water crocodile on the banks of Sandy Creek. The croc attacked and killed German tourist Isabel von Jordan, while she was swimming. The area directly behind the croc was where Isabel was taken. (Newspix)
National Park Rangers Greg Ryan, Garry Lindner, Andrew Wellings and Buck Salau with the dead 15-foot 1,100 pound saltwater crocodile on the banks of Sandy Creek located near Darwin in northern Australia. The croc seized German tourist Isabel von Jordan, 23, while she was enjoying a moonlit swim. (Photo – Newspix)
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You could swim with a shark but never with a croc. Moreover a Salty.
The local tribesman of Borneo once shared with me a tip:
Once your nostril hit with a foul stench from the river bank, clear away from the water at least a few feet away.
The croc’s nearby.
I am glad to hear that the guide got in trouble. Sorry, but I would never trust anyone who said what he said. How is there any way to tell that there aren’t crocs lurking down under the surface? Or that they won’t attack? If they live in the water then good chances you’ll run into one. I wouldn’t even sit near the shoreline but that is me.
I saw a documentary about this incident. It was over 100F and the tourists wanted to cool down… Myself, I would rather cook alive than take the risk they did… the guide should have not let them go into the water but his 3 year sentence was appropriate.. he has to live with a lot of thought for the rest of his life.
If a Black Man was the tour guide and said that causing a white girl or any white tourist to get killed, he would have had twenty years to life
Though it is a unique assumption based on the facts that the tour guide was a White man (my bad if I indeed made an error, which I dare someone challenge me on this), It would be almost the same assumption that if the tour guide was Black, this incident would have made national news and he would have been lynched by the system. This is what I’ve learned and experienced from living here in the United States, an unfortunate fact in a multitude of situations.
Be glad you live in the United States. You people have never had it so good. If it’s possible, think about what I just said (if that’s even possible with your sub 85 IQ).
Your pathetic. You sound like a racist to me, because that is exactly the type of remark a racist would make. Someone has tragically lost their life, and that is all you can think about to say. How ignorant.
WHY, do you always have to make it about race?? OJ killed two white people and got away with it, get over it already! YOU are an example of why racism still lives today! Can’t you just write condolences to the girls family or something positive?
If his name was O.J. Simpson, he wouldn’t have served any time at all. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.
Get over being black already!
why must everything be about race? get over it!
Just when I think I have seen & heard it all…… Just how deep did you have to dig into your bag of stupid to try and find a comment as disgusting and innane as yours was for such drivel??
To shamefully distract from the real issue…..an innocent dead girl? Pathetic.
D 😦
We have Obama as president and the main reason why he won’t be impeachef is because of the black in him. Stupid ignorant comment.
You seriously couldn’t have found a better site or article to wave your race card around on?
Fuck yoursels Ms. Saeed. You are keeping racism alive and well.
Hey Vidah, move on down to Oz to live. Get away from all that bad-ass stuff in America. You would love it here.
life is not fair honey!
You do realize this happen in AUSTRALIA RIGHT?!! They are one of the least racist countries in the world!! Why even bother with your ignorant selfish comment? You, and people like you, are the exact reason why the US has so much trouble moving on from racism. The tour guide wasn’t American, the girl wasn’t American, why even say anything? Seriously just amazed as your ignorance and selfishness.
Shut up you twat. Must be hard carrying such a big chip on your shoulder.
R Y CRAZY LADY…..A LITTLE RACIST MAYBE. ….
R Y crazy lady
Black is better to eat. Monkey meat is what crocs like…
It’s always about race !!
Racist
miss don’t waste your time on these sub human colorless freaks .. they know nothing of your plight .. and I concur .. cheers sweets
Don’t killing our crocs they r friendly
😂
Complete inversion of reality
A black man just committed felony capital murder, against a white woman, when he robbed her cell phone, killing her on the process, and received only 12 years
Yet a White girl said the N word and is being threatened with 13 years
Stooooop
95 percent of all interracial crime is black in white
Hi Julia, would you mind giving me the name of the documentary?
Even I saw this documentary on National Geographic channel some years back. How can you swim in that water even after reading the warning signs? And these things are highly active at night. Its really sad she got killed but why did they kill the croc? Croc did what he was supposed to do, they are designed to kill. Its humans fault to enter thier territory.
On target. Warning signs actually up and posted. Shame on a paid guide-service to not heed and put the clients at peril.
Possibly the park will post pictures with some previous gory aftermath pics that state “Swim if you are stooo-pid.”
RIP to all victims of unfortunate animal attacks and to their families. Predators attack when they are hungry or perceive a threat. They do not share human emotions.
Hopefully these type of stories will become a ‘wake up’ call to all who venture into the wilderness. Predators do not attend “friends get along” classes nor do they wear bells.
Maybe you can call it naiv or reckless, but I guess it`s not that easy at all.
You are in group of 9 and feel more stronger than you are all by yourself.
You survived a terror attack 10 days ago and feel a little more “immortal” after what happened. All the circumstances are pretty obscure… you have the warning signs on the one hand and yes, you are concerned about all the things you`d read and heard about crocs so far, but on the other hand there is a guide who`s talking about the Aborigines which swam/swim there and who silenced scruples of all questioning. Most important for me is the fact that as an attender you trust your guide.
I remember situations in South Africa where my buddy and I went into the Bush after our guide told us which kind of cobras there were/are, but our guide did not prevent us from doing it.
As a matter of fact you have to kill the croc getting the body of the deceased.
They should dangled the tour guide by his feet first and let his face stir the water before they entered the lake since he said it was safe….
What an exciting find! I can’t imangie how excited they were when they came across THAT while walking through the woods mine would have been off the wall. So glad you had your camera!
For college age young aged adults to ignore written warnings about crocodiles being in the area waters is pure foolishness. The guide should never be allowed to take any other tourists into these beautiful but as we’ve seen very deadly portions of the Australian landscape. As to why the crock needed to be killed that is standard procedure with any animal once its tasted human blood to protect and ensure that it wont do so again. Sad story for both the young lady and her family and friends as well as the crock only doing what it has always done whenever something invades its territory…
I am also glad that the guide got punished. I mean, why would they go in anyway if there were warning signs and crocs in the area? Me, personally would not go any were with crocs that eat human.
I know this sounds mean but it’s too bad that the girl was killed and not the tour guide. I mean, there were warning signs, and shining your torch on the surface of the water isn’t going to tell you anything. That tour guides going to live remembering this for the rest of his life
The victims of the attacks are to blame….not the guide, not the crocs. If you are dumb enough to go into the water where crocs live near its your fault if you get eaten alive. I take responsibility for my own safety and had this girl done the same she would be here today. She died a bloody fool.
you’re a fuckin idiot. guides are employed for their knowledge and experience of places and animals. the girl and other tourists put their faith in their guide. too bad the guide was also a fuckin idiot.
YOU PUT YOUR FAITH IN YOUR GUIDE BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSABILITY FOR YOUR OWN SAFE AS BRANDON SAID , I WOULD NEVER GET INTO A LAKE FULL OF CROCS EVEN IF THE GUIDE SAIDS THAT ITS OK !!
Just found this thread as doing some research into the incident. Brandon, you truly are a moron. I’d suggest you have a look into the incident to see what the group were really told by the guide. Of course they had no idea that there were crocs in that area… If they had, they would never have got in. To say that she is a ‘bloody fool’ says everything to me about you. She did take responsibility for her actions… The group employed a guide from a reputable company to ensure their safety and asked the guide time and time again whether or not the areas were safe on a daily basis. Go back to x-box.
They saw the warning sign
Yes and no. You do need to be personally responsible, you cant blame nature (the croc) for your mistakes, but the tour guide was very ignorant for allowing and encouraging them to go into the water. Its sad, but whats done is done
Anywhere in tropical and subtropical Australia, there are saltwater or “estuarine” crocodiles. They may not have been in a place in the past, but now populations are rebounding from the days when they were hunted almost to extinction in parts of their range. Never, never swim in any river in northern Australia, no matter who tells you that it is ok. They are fascinating creatures, but we are on their menu. Admire them from a distance.
I’m pleased we havent got these monsters in England-they scare me to death!
All of the stories are very sad. One can only hope people learn from these stories to respect nature and the creatures which naturally hunt their prey, keeping a safe distance where they live. For another sad story, put the name, Hendrick Coatzee into your search engine. He bravely kayaked African rivers for many years, only to be taken on his last trip before settling down. It’s a story as sad as any of these.
Stupid guide crocs can stay submerged for hours it should be obvious there gonna be there somewhere from the sounds of things they could of been hunted anyway
I’m Sorry but the guide .. What was he thinking?? And now not only a girl died the croc is dead as well.
That is the reason why people are hating crocs, I’m sorry but the salty did what his nature told him to do and the guide is the reason why two creatures are dead now.
That’s just very very sad.
I agree with you the guide should of known and salty was doing what there born to
Not in the least bit racist, but we can’t deny racism exists and it happens just as I have stated. Yes after I got off the intenet I realized before I saw your comment (Nicole) that I have not expressed my condolences. And I do apologize for leaving this out unintentionally. I haven’t read everyone elses comments but at least I can say I do feel for the family. My point is the man should’ve (or should I say he is very lucky he has not ) gotten 20 years to life for what he did just like a Black man more likely would’ve been charged in this racist system (I would applaud the few fair judges who do not fit this category)
You do realize this happened in Northern Australia right? In a state where up to 80 percent of the population is at least part aboriginal, a.k.a Black. So chances the tour guide was black. Also Australian law is not like American law – when an aboriginal pleads guilty to a non violet crime in Australia they get taken to a special sentencing hearing in a place called the Koori court where they are given a sentence agreed upon by one of their elders and a judge together as a way to eliminate racism in the justice system. The fact he pleaded guilty and was given a three year suspended sentence suggests that he most likely is aboriginal. Please don’t come in here and try to use American legal propaganda on Australian cases when you have no idea how our legal system works. RIP Isobel.
80% black??? really?? where do you get your figures from? Have you ever been to northern Australia? have a look around you dickhead!!
Hey KC. The tour guide was white, fact. Do a little research. He killed a woman who paid him to keep her safe. And he didn’t spend one single day in jail, asshole.
Honestly, You realize this didn’t happen in America right? Its in Australia and they have very little racism there based on laws and procedures set up to prevent it. Why you think this comment is ok to post is ridiculous. So much Shame.
@Vidah,
Are you kidding me? I think its hilarious that people who consistently talk about racism and try to make irrelevant stories somehow racist always start thier sentences with colors. “White people” “white man” “black man” “black woman” your no better than the “racist” people your referring to. Shut up. You hate USA? Move. This country is a melting pot, people here are a mix of things. What’s next? This poor girl who lost her life in an unfortunate accident, that somehow fueled your racist pessimistic rant about white peole, must have been Muslim? Maybe the tour guide was Jewish? Your ignorance makes me sad that you claim the United States of America where people from other countries can see it. You must also have your law degree considering the fact you know the conviction sentences to color ratio. Ugh.
Stfu bitch racisme exist in usa
Yes it does but this story has nothing to do with it. No matter how hard people like you try to make it so, not every situation can be broken down to the color of your skin. Especially situations in other countries. The amount of ignorance that is being shown on this page is amazing. Yes racism exists, please explain how it pertains to this story. What evidence do you have that if this happened in the US and the tour guide was black that things would be different. Unless you can provide some actual proof and not some shit you made up in your head based on what you think will happen, don’t talk. There is no evidence anywhere that if this happened in America and the tour guide was black that he would get any other punishment. And I say again, unless you can prove otherwise with hard facts from some Law or words from a Judge or Attorney, shut the fuck up!
Im so sick of all this ” The animals are only doing what they do naturally,” Well I got news for ya… HUMANS are only doing what they do too! Put THAT in your PETA PIPE and smoke it
What a bullshit comment..humans went into croc territory u fucking half breed not the other way around what r u sick of….moron
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Vidah you are clueless. You have no idea what a black man’s sentence would have been in this situation. I would venture that it would probably be the same as what the guide got, but I don’t know any more than you do. This was not a case murder of one person by another. If that was the case then MAYBE you could more accurately speculate on the potential for racial bias. We all know racism infects our daily lives. My fiance is a black woman of Haitian ancestry. She doesn’t agree that a black man would have gotten a worse sentence and she has certainly experienced her share of racism. But the point is that speculating what sentence a black man would get in this case IS WAY BESIDE THE POINT. That line of thinking perpetuates racist thought. You’re trying to insinuate the possibility for racism to be present into a situation which for all you know has very little potential for it to happen. Could it happen? Of course. You may as well insinuate the possibility for racism into every situation in life from one day to the next. When you have to connect so many dots to arrive at a POTENTIAL conclusion of racism you flame the fires of racist thought. I’m not sure that makes you a racist, but it certainly indicates bias and prejudice. Again is the scenario you posit possible? Of course. But this story is not the time and place to bring it up. You have every right to, but realize that you do not help the cause to quell racist thought and action. In my opinion you incite it.
In memory of Isobel von Jordan: It is so-so sad. So young and vibrant and her life is taken. Thinking of you Isobel and family … Love …
from South Africa.
The documentary aired on NatGeo Wild on Mon 10 Sep 13, the tourists, aware of the multiple croc signs, should have known of dangerous reptiles despite the guides mention of the freshwater crocs and the flash lighting that could not detect below the surface hiding creatures.
What is flash lighting Patrick?
I can see many of you writing emotional comments but you all make it apparent that you all have never had to deal with a wild croc.here in africa it is simple. You are responsible for your safety and when shit hits the fan,its on you.even when tourists come to africa for safaris no one is punished if you get mauled by a lion. This is a sad story but how can you see croc signs and enter the water?i mean even if that bredy barr guy tells you to! When black people are killed by crocs its not cz they were havin a lesiurely swim.they were either fetchin water or fishing for their family..even off the coast of south africa when a great white kills someone its never a black person.im not bein racist dont get me wrong cz white people have always been the most intelligent race.bt when it comes to wild animals what happens to y’all?
There is never smoke without fire; ultimately, there can never be crocs without danger. Let me ask a question. If you are told that a drink in a bottle contains ONLY 0.0000000001% of an unknown poison, will you take it? I think it’s pertinent to avoid places that spell the least form of danger. Danger is always danger no matter how small. May the soul of the deceased rest in peace.
…..Isti J.O, from Nigeria.
Too bad for that girl but they all made a dumb descision.White people grow up in a very safe environment so its nowonder how they easily take risks.Black people are killed by crocodiles too but only when fishing or fetching water.Not cooling off!!If it were a child I would understand but these are people in their twenties who read the warning signs for christs sake!Why would you listen to some park official like he can guarantee your safety in a river infested with killing machines that have honed their weapons throughout 200years of their evolution?
First off, I would of fired the tour guide and added jail time for stupidity. Could you imagine going there on vacation and getting him as a tour guide after his 3 year suspension and then finding out from a local what he did?!? I’d leave that place altogether. I mean what an idiot. He shines the light on the water. Yup, looks good guys. Like he knows all crocs are ALWAYS on the surface. Don’t worry about the signs. There for the freshwater ones. I wouldn’t want to be in there even with a freshwater croc! Yet, he didn’t go in the water. That croc is huge. Im 6’7″ 330lbs. and know I’d be no match for it. Also, I wonder if the croc knew out of the whole group, the person he was going for was the smallest (easiest to handle)? Lastly, shame on that group for not giving any effort to try and help her. I bet there would be a good chance to get it off her, despite its massive size. It said they were within arms length. Idk about anyone else, but with being so close, I’d be ashamed of myself if I just turned around and left. Then the Park Rangers got the worst of it. Having to watch in horror as the croc has her mangled up body in its mouth.
I just watched the documentary on this… How very sad! I’m afraid should have got a lot harsher sentence! Rediculous to let them swim! As as Aussie just about the only water you would get me in us bath water and then I would be wary! Also they were camped near another billabong! That’s dangerous as well….what was he thinking??
A mistake like this does not carry 20yrs under the law, no matter what race you are, a DUI killing carries more than this and you are DUI no matter what race you are.I wouldn’t trust a puddle of water over seas even if i was told it was safe,this guide got complacent over a period of time and made a mistake.
3 yrs is about right.
This guide, from now on,would be the safest guide on the planet.
Ya hes not a guide anymore- he should have done time.
Stupid humans, it’s her own fault she got eaten ain’t got no remorse for her, you read a bloody sign that says watch out for crockies, but you still continue with your initial motive stupidity at it’s best.
She didn’t get eaten, it killed her.
SERIOUSLY!!!??? Laugh out Loud, again and again and again.
Let me get this straight….So, somebody goes swimming – at night, mind – in a part of the world that’s famous for man-eating crocodiles. And, they errrrrr……get eaten alive? People are shocked and horrified!!!! How could this happen? (That’s sarcasm, by the way.)
…as for the ‘guide’? Fucking stupid moron doesn’t even come close, the blind leading the blind, and with expected results. Probably thinking more about seeing some German titty than the relative safety concerns.
I don’t know what the problem is, she was German, besides it’s usually only the Yankee tourists that get eaten by our Crocodiles. The locals have more sense and remember it’s mostly american Tourists that get eaten. The Yanks are the silliest child like bastards on Earth and obese, god they are fat and our Crocodiles love to eat them, besides the Crocodiles have to be fed, so come on down you silly Tin Tank Yanks and I’ll put a Prawn on the Barbie for us to eat while you hand feed the Crocodiles, come on down, play and swim with our wonderful crocodiles, try riding on their backs or see if you can out swim them. Crocodile Ted, Northern Territory Australia,
Hmm…after i red all this comments i just want to say..what a perfect english lang u guys had..i dont know..maybe i live in asia so english is not the must..sorry for the out of topic..but yeah..poor that girl..as for me..they guide glenn robless..is the one who got to be blame..because he is an expert..u may look at his profile..his experiences..he knew every inchs about that lake..but why he so ignorant..tch..what a dork..and seriously..his punishment only 3 years behind the bar..and i bet probably he already out!!!RIP for Isabella von jordan..
Hmm…after i red all this comments u just want to say..what a perfect english lang u guys had..i dont know..maybe i live in asia so english is not the must..sorry for the out of topic..but yeah..poor that girl..as for me..they guide glenn robless..is the one who got to be blame..because he is an expert..u may look at his profile..his experiences..he knew every inchs about that lake..but why he so ignorant..tch..what a dork..and seriously..his punishment only 3 years behind the bar..and i bet probably he already out!!!
Greeting from a non- obese Yank, the few that are still left lol
Poor girl !!! she didn’t deserve such a harrowing death,no…. but where was her common sense ? How can anyone argue that common sense ain’t an issue here ? if you as an individual chose to ignore Warning Signs ( as clear as they can be about the river being infested with Salties, Depicting DO NOT SWIM) than that is at your own peril, no 2nd chances in this life for making fatal errors ( the only person to defy almost certain death in the jaws of a croc is some fisherman dude from Malawi, but no one should count on being able to chew off the nose of a big ass croc like he did !) . The tour guide was clearly an irresponsible and unprofessional dumbass , but all those people who happily surrendered their own reasoning for a quick thrill make me wonder too. Think of it they are actually pretty lucky to still be alive ( given that more salties lurk around such creeks or billabongs and they could have ended also on the crocs dinner plate too), It should be a lesson to humans, but guess what the same shit happens over and over again each year, and the reaction is always the same, finish of the beats or just go on a massive cull to get revenge, How idiotic and stupid is that !!
“several crocodile warning signs were posted”
So a bomb destroyed the Bali bar they were just in and so, they just wanted to “forget that trouble” by going to a beach filled with crocodiles.
I have no words for this. Me, vacay is over. I would not decide, “well let me travel to war-torn Afghanistan to finish off my vacation. I think, American troops are there and I’m sure they’ll protect me somehow”
Sheltered mentality, “There has been no wild tigers attacking me at my condo, so if I travel to India and roam around in those jungles, therefore I should be just as safe.”
The crocodile wasn’t 15 feet it was 14 feet. And the bar she was at prior that had the terrorist attack she wasn’t there an hour prior she and her friends were there 2 days before the attack.
The guide should have done time- he got a suspended sentence. He was responsible and the reason she died.
4.6 meters is 15 feet, not 14……for whatever difference it makes. The account states that the croc was 4.6 meters
Why is this story called ” Eaten Alive”? Crocs kill their prey by drowning before eating it, unless it’s something small like a fish that they can just swallow whole.
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I can NOT BELIEVE an ” Experienced tour guide Would even concider Goin in Well Known croc infested water ! Let alone incourage his clients to swim in there Also ! 😡😡😡😡😡 AND He gets Away with It WOW 😡😡😡😡😡
The guide did that in purpose, and anybody don’t know is true? Yes many Australian specially white people they are criminal in there mind they don’t like anybody may except a bite local peoples, but locals they are not stupid to swim in a night time into a billabong everyone knows that in Australia 🌏 fucking aussie’s….racist criminal and evil, I’m fuck i’ know the Australians they just good when they dead heat them!!;;;;;; I’m Frenchmen fucking Australian, except arborigenesse they thoses who’s they don’t drink alcohol
There’s a reason why the saltie was very nearly ‘shot out’ ( shot to extinction).
They kill people, pets, livestock, They were protected as of about 1970, when their population was down to about 3,000.I’m betting that there were a lot less problems with them at that time. Today, after nearly 50 years of protection, the population has gone up from 3,000 to between 100, 000 and 150,000.
What did you THINK was going to happen?
How’s this: The next time a human is killed,under ANY circumstances ( stupid swimmers, etc) create an official cull, and destroy 50,000 breeding size adults quickly….no screwing around, 50, 000 in 25 weeks or less.
The population and the ecosystem will be safe enough with what remains, not to worry.
Don’t killing our crocs they r friendly
A family from Nebraska,–apparently–knew nothing about alligators being in almost any body of water in Florida.
Disneyworld’s hotel’s lake’s signs only said something to the effect of
“No Swimming”, but nothing about “Warning-Alligators”.
Their little boy was killed.
Note: they have been seen on the edges of the Ross Barnett Reservoir, north of Jackson, in central MS, which is only about 200 miles south of Memphis TN.
Tourists in south TX, LA, MS, LA, FL, GA : is it worth risking the life of your child? These monsters even go to the edge of the water-or beyond.
While I’ll grant that American Alligators are not as aggressive as Salties, or Niles, Any of these predators will see anything that is small enough to ‘take’
as another food item on the menu……….period.
Your pet tropical fish would cut you in half if it were 20 feet long…they’re only safe because we are so much bigger.It all comes down to wildlife management.
It’s the same story as with the Salties…American Alligators were hunted down to
such small numbers that they were given protected status a little over 50 years ago. Where are they now? They are indeed in ‘almost any body of water’ in Florida. Florida handles over 20, 000 trouble calls a year regarding Alligators.
Back in the day, 50+ years ago, they were killed in droves…especially the big breeding size ones, and human fatalities were almost unheard of.
Today, it’s not necessarily safe to go NEAR the water, let alone IN the water.
“Decided to spend the rest of their vacation somewhere safer??” The Australian Outback?? WHAA!
It is a shame that they were responsible enough to hire a guide and he recklessly steered them wrong. However is it just me or are Freshwater Crocs still dangerous? I know Salties are larger and more aggressive but I dont think I would be ok with swimming in a lake with Freshwater Crocs either. The combination of the warning signs, time of day and that any crocs were present should have been enough to keep them out of the water.
Terrible this had to happen.
The current thinking is that it’s safe enough to swim where Freshies are found, provided you don’t step on them or otherwise provoke them. Freshies are much smaller than salties ( averaging 5 feet or so) and humans are too large to be considered a prey item Eventually (over 30 years or more) they might reach of ten feet or or a little more. Even so, unlike salties, the freshie is simply not hardwired for large mammalian prey (humans). We’ve been keeping records for a long time now. In terms of danger to humans, the freshie’s record inarguably speaks for itself.
I’ve swam with crocs they didn’t touch me, some are just more territorial than others, ones that are not common with humans learn to be more aggressive. This was simply an act of her not being careful.
Dude. Bottom line there were multiple signs warning of crocs, was there not? Good god the horrifying last moments, too gnarly, way too gnarly.